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COME TO NOTTINGHAM !

Simon Lowings called to ask if we could help to entice more vehicles to attend the event at Wollaton Park in Nottingham on 1st June 2008.

He says "Last year we were invited by Nottingham City Council and the Austin 7 Club to put on a show of buses and coaches as part of the Autokarna event. We only had 7 weeks notice but still managed to fill the allocated area within 2 weeks - totalling 62 buses & coaches. As a result this year we have been allocated an enormous area enabling this event to become a huge success."

"Despite advertising in bus magazines we are not getting the numbers we would like to see. With such a fantastic venue being made available and forming part of a classic vehicle event, new car motorshow, fun fair, plus plus plus - set in 500 acres of parkland with a natural history museum, deer park, adventure playground and cafeteria (not to forget the beer tent !!) I really want our efforts to succeed. We have so few good rallies nationwide with many others falling by the wayside through ridicuous HSE and insurance pitfalls, I can only put the low entry numbers down to the crazy fuel prices."

So get in touch with Simon and the team on 07971-105491 or via the Nottingham Heritage Vehicles website and book your place at the event.


** STAR PICTURE **

Here's a remarkable image of a rare vehicle - so rare in fact, that only one was ever built! Kindly sent from Australia by Peter Caunt, this is a photo he took of the sole Leyland Panda WG 9519 at Salford Races around 1954, when working for Trumans Coaches. W.Alexander & Sons of Falkirk acquired three oddball Leylands in the late 1930s / early 1940s, two Gnus and a Panda. The twin-steer Panda had actually been built in 1939, but arrived in the Alexander fleet in September 1941 and was fitted with a unique Alexander 45-seat centre-entrance bus body.

The horizontal 8.6 litre engine was under the floor on the offside, behind the front axles, and it seems likely that Leyland may have intended a spectacular launch of this new design, had the war not intervened. In the event, Alexander acquired it at the height of the hostilities, probably grateful for any chassis they could lay their hands on. One curious aspect of Alexander's bodywork (and clearly visible in Peter's photo) is there was obviously an intent to install a sliding door in the original design, but this feature was never actually fitted.

Numbered P683 it lasted only until 1946, when it was sold via a dealer to W.Truman of Shirebrook, who seem to have used it quite successfully for 10 years, despite its uniqueness. In 1956 it passed to another dealer, after which it spent a year with Aston's Coaches of Marton, and five further years as a contractor's bus with Turriff Construction Co. in Warwick. Not surprisingly after all that, it was finally scrapped in 1963.

Many thanks to Peter for sending me the fine picture.


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??  MYSTERY PICTURE  ??

Last year, Chris Pearce came across this bus about 10 minutes away from Glen of Aherlow, Co.Tipperary in Ireland. My colleague and guru of Irish bus affairs, Shane Conway, says he thinks it's a Willowbrook-bodied Bedford SB or Ford 570E, but he's certain that it is NOT the sole example which was supplied new to the Ulster Transport Authority in 1962.

So, does anyone have any suggestions as to its identity or origins? If you can help, please send me an Email. Thanks.

LAST MYSTERY PICTURE

The coach in the accident was a Foden PVSC6 / Plaxton (probably LWA 855) belonging to Brightside & Carbrook Co-operative Society, of Sheffield.


Welcome to the home of classic buses and coaches on the net. I'm Dick Gilbert. This site is all about nostalgia for British passenger transport vehicles from the 1930s to the 1960s, with an unashamed bias towards 'halfcabs'.

Each page has a different colour scheme which is supposed to be reminiscent of some bus or coach company from the era, and this one is meant to represent Western / Southern National. As a result of this arrangement, some of the pages are hard to read, and some will scramble your brain. That's life for you.

My interest in British buses began in the late 1950's and early 1960's, and the buses and coaches that were around then are all 'classics' now.  It was an interesting period, when there were still pre-war and wartime 'utility' machines about (although mostly on the point of retirement), and a large number of halfcab vehicles that had been built immediately after the war. At the same time, new products like the Leyland Atlantean, AEC Regent V, and a host of 'modern' coach designs (Plaxton Panorama, Harrington Cavalier, Weymann Fanfare etc.) were appearing. It was a transitional period when vehicles from the 1930's, 40's, 50's and 60's could all be seen in use at the same time.

Having been born in south London, London Transport was the first operator that I lived with, then we moved to Sussex and I grew up with Southdown, Maidstone & District, East Kent, and the municipal fleets of Eastbourne and Brighton, as well as the large number of excursion coaches that used to visit the south coast every summer.

In the early 1960's I used to make trips to London to visit Victoria Coach Station, or see the last of the London Transport trolleybuses, or the last half-cab single deckers (TD's). Unfortunately, although I saw what I went to see, most of the photographs I took are not particularly brilliant, or have been lost. However I do have some black & white pictures taken at Victoria Coach Station, London, and in Sussex between 1960 and 1962 which are barely reasonable, and some of them appear around this site. Here's one;

Lincolnshire Leyland Cub

This was taken at 'The Crumbles', Eastbourne, in the summer of 1962, where Claude Lane was running the narrow gauge Eastbourne Tramway (now moved to Seaton, Devon). He had used this ex Lincolnshire Road Car Leyland KPZ01 Cub as a lorry in the past, and it was left to rot outside his depot. New in May 1937 it was FW 8855, originally fleet number LC502, one of thirty delivered that year with Brush B20F bodies. I guess someone might rescue it these days.

I attend a few rallies around the country, and like to see the old machines that people have restored. Reviews and/or pictures of any shows I attend appear on the pages here, although it can take a while before I get round to it. The whole idea of the site is to entertain the sad souls (like me !) who have a soft spot for old PSV's, and also be a sorting office for information on the subject.

It's all for fun, so relax and have a wistful rummage through the scrapbook. If you weren't around in the 1960's (and they say that, if you were, you won't remember it !) then these pages might provide an insight into the variety of glamorous machines that could be seen on British streets at the time.

Incidentally, this site has no connection whatsoever with Classic Bus magazine, but I thoroughly, absolutely, unreservedly and totally recommend it to anyone with an interest in the subject. It is published 6 times a year, and regular readers all wish it was 12 times a year. Folk in the UK should be able to order it through their newsagents. Those offshore should contact Classic Bus Publishing Ltd., 18 Brunstane Road, Edinburgh, EH15 2QJ, Scotland. When it falls on your doorstep it's like when the delivery guy has brought you a really good pizza.

Please keep in touch, as changes are taking place here all the time, and let me know if you spot a mistake somewhere - I do try to keep things pretty accurate. I know that there are some real boffins out there, and I need you to tell me when something is inaccurate. So welcome to the site, browse around and make yourself at home.



GUIDE TO SITE CONTENTS

SURVIVING BRITISH SINGLE-DECK HALFCABS

Because of my particular interest in this area, I have compiled a list of all known classic British single-deck halfcab buses and coaches that I believe survive in the UK and Ireland. Surprisingly there are over 550, and the list is constantly updated. You can find it HERE, and I invite any passing enthusiast to point out any mistakes or updates (and they do !).

SURVIVING DOUBLE-DECKERS CONVERTED TO SINGLE DECK SERVICE VEHICLES

British double deckers that have been converted to tow-trucks, recovery vehicles, lorries and all sorts of other odd things. I've found quite a few surviving examples, but maybe you know of others. Please let me know.

BUS RALLIES AND SHOWS

Reports of visits (by me and others) to bus rallies and transport shows, with details of vehicles present. Hopelessly biased opinions can be expected, but I hope pictures of the visiting buses make up for this. The page is usually way out of date, but does get sporadic updates, and I hope it provides some enjoyment for those who cannot visit these events.

EVENTS DIARY

Listing the many events and rallies that are scheduled each year. Make a note in your diary of a show near you, or send me details of one that I've missed.

MAIL AND NEWS PAGE

A collection of contributions from readers on all sorts of bus subjects. Photos and items come in all the time, so call in every so often to see what's going on - or send something yourself !

VINTAGE BUS TICKETS

My (sad) little page about bus tickets stirred up a surprising amount of interest. It show samples from tickets I collected all over England and Scotland from 1958 to 1962 (or thereabouts).

BRITISH BUS PRESERVATION GROUP

This site is proud to have been chosen to host the B.B.P.G. homepages. Please visit their pages and see what valuable work they do in saving classic buses from the scrapman's torch - and join the Group to help them in their never-ending task.

AUSTRALIAN BUS PAGES

I've been amazed how much interest there is in classic British-built buses in Australia, and there are a lot of survivors too. So I've created two pages on the subject, using the many contributions I receive from kind enthusiasts over there. Pay a visit and see what's going on in the colonies.

NEW ZEALAND PAGE

Several correspondents have sent me pictures and news about British buses in New Zealand,so here's a place to display them.

SRI LANKAN TRANSPORT

A page about a visit by me to Sri Lanka in October 2003, with details of the buses, trains and other modes of transport that I saw there.

TRANSPORT IN INDIA

Three pages of transport pictures taken during a trip to India in October 2006.

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THE LINKS SECTION

Links to Classic British Bus websites only - no Patagonian trolleybuses here, and definitely nothing that mentions words like Volvo or Van Hool. But if you want to visit folk who know about Crossleys and crash gearboxes, browse through the Classic Buses Links Page.

40+ YEARS AGO

A look at the British bus preservation scene in 1961. Seventy six buses ! And how many of them still survive today? Take a look and find out.........

THE CLASSIC IRISH BUSES WEBSITE

I'm delighted to host Shane Conway's Classic Irish Buses Website. Contains comprehensive cover of buses in Ireland (old and new) and pictures from visits to many other areas as well. A vast amount of information and a huge picture resource - well worth a visit.

THE CLASSIC BUSES WEBSITE PHOTO COLLECTION

To celebrate the 10th anniversary of this website, I'm delighted to announce the opening of the Classic Buses Website Photo Collection of contributed pictures, featuring classic British buses and coaches in service, or just withdrawn, or in the early days of preservation. Most of these pictures have never been published before. Enjoy !

Classic Buses Profile Pages

This section is a wistful look back at some wonderful classes of vehicle that could once be seen gracing the streets of Britain (and sometimes elsewhere). Here is the present selection;

Aldershot & District; Aldershot & District Dennis Lancets

Alexander; Alexander single deckers from the 1930s, and from the 1940s, and from the 1950s.

Australia; Melbourne Tramways Leyland OPS4/1 Tigers

Birmingham; Birmingham Leyland Tigers

Crosville; Crosville Bristol L's

Dundee; Dundee Corporation photo collection , Dundee Pre-war Double Deckers , Dundee Post-war Double Deckers , Dundee Single Deckers , Dundee Miscellaneous Pictures

East Kent; East Kent Leyland Tigers, East Kent Dennis Lancets

Eastbourne; Eastbourne Corporation double deckers, Eastbourne single deckers , Eastbourne Seafront Buses

London Transport; London LT class AEC Renowns, London TD class Leyland TigersLondon T class AEC Regals, Trolleybus / Routemaster conversion programme, The last full day of Routemaster operation

Maidstone & District; Maidstone & District Leyland Tigers, Maidstone & District AEC Regals

Midland General; Midland General AEC Regals

Oxford; City of Oxford AEC Regals

Potteries; Potteries post-war Leyland Tigers

Southdown; Open-top utility Guy Arabs, Leyland Tigers (1) - pre-war coaches, Leyland Tigers (2) - pre-war buses, Leyland Tigers (3) - all post-war vehicles,  Underfloor-engined coaches 1951-1961

Special Vintage Galleries (from the 1920s and 30s); Wray bodywork Part One, Wray bodywork Part Two

Thames Valley; Thames Valley Bristol L's

Trent; Trent Motor Traction AEC Regals

Victoria Coach Station; Victoria Coach Station photos from 1960-61


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