Last updated 24 December 2007 To Gilbert Family Home Page
My Great Grandfather, David Gilbert (1825-1916)
We have lots of information and details of our family history, including the following surnames:
ADAMS, BERRY, BOYS, CARRICK, CLEMENTSON, DOWLEY, ERREY, FELLINGHAM, FOYSTER, FULLER, GILBERT, GORRINGE, GRACE, GREEN, HASSELL, HEDGECOTT, HEWITT, HOOPER, HOWE, INGLE, JENNINGS, KYTE, LENEY, MANN, MARCHANT, MORRIS, NORELIUS, PACK, PIPER, POTTS, PLUMMER, PURSGLOVE, RAY, ROGERS, RUMNEY, SHOOSMITH, SODDY, STEADMAN, STENNING, STURT, TITE, TOBIN, VERRALL, VINALL, WALL, WALLER, WARDELL, WILLE, WIMBLE.
Most of the family connections originate from the south east of England, particularly Sussex, but of course there are links all over the place, INCLUDING NEW GILBERT LINKS TO THE USA.
See if any of the following surnames have an association with your family or your researches, and please also drop into the UNSOLVED CRIMES DEPARTMENT at the foot of the page. Please send me a quick mail if you think you can help, or I can help you. I am always happy to assist if I can. We have already achieved some great successes with this page, so thanks to those who have contacted me in the past, and I look forward to hearing from more of you. Thank you for dropping in.
Dick Gilbert, Heathfield, Sussex, England.
PS. If you're looking for details of the CAIRO WAR MEMORIAL CEMETERY, see the foot of this page.
From Isaac Adams (born around 1810) of Worthing, Brighton & Eastbourne, all Sussex
Thru John Calvin Adams (born around 1840) of Worthing, Brighton & Eastbourne, all Sussex
To Caleb Luther Adams (born around 1840) of Worthing, Brighton & Eastbourne, all Sussex
and their associations with the Dowley, Gorringe and Hassell families
From Thomas Berry (1747-1830) of Ringmer, Sussex
Thru James Berry (1761-1847) of Lewes, Sussex
To James Berry (1796-1877), 'the man who built Eastbourne', Sussex
and their associations with the Morris, Wille and Wimble families
From Frederick Clementson (1874-1953) of Barking, Essex
and George William Clementson (1903-1975) of Mile End, London, and Dagenham, Essex
To Alan Frederick Clementson (1952-????) of Barking, Essex, and Bedford
and their associations with the Adams, Beckess, Cannon, Cook, Davies, Foyster, Gilbert, Howe, Ingle, Jones, Pack, Plummer, Ray, Rogers, Tite, Wall and Waller families
A growing tree. Here is an approximate idea of what we know so far. The very early entries are a bit doubtful, so I'm always interested in new information. This section is divided in two - The English Gilberts, and Gilberts in the USA;
ENGLISH GILBERTS
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William Gilbert (17??-1787 Waldron, Sussex) = Ann Weston (17??-1783 Waldron, Sussex) - and maybe he married someone else as well.
his children (possibly) were
Children (possibly) of WILLIAM GILBERT (1738-1800)
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Descendants of WILLIAM GILBERT (1790 Waldron, Sussex - 24 Jun 1844 Waldron, Sussex) and MARIA JENNINGS (26 Jan 1785 - 27 Jun 1834 Waldron, Sussex)
Descendants of DAVID GILBERT (25 Apr 1825 Waldron, Sussex - 23 Nov 1916 Eastbourne, Sussex) and CHARLOTTE HASSELL (20 Sep 1817 Hellingly, Sussex - 2 Feb 1895 Eastbourne, Sussex)
Descendants of DAVID GILBERT (14 Mar 1861 Eastbourne, Sussex - 5 Nov 1902 Eastbourne, Sussex) and ELLEN I.MORRIS (26 Jul 1857 Eastbourne, Sussex - 25 Nov 1951 Eastbourne)
Descendants of RICHARD GILBERT (13 May 1894 Eastbourne, Sussex - 23 May 1988 Uckfield, Sussex) and ELSIE MABEL HEWITT (5 Mar 1906 Weymouth, Dorset - 5 Jul 1990 Eastbourne, Sussex)
Children of HILARY RICHARD GILBERT (ME !) (b.28 Oct 1947 Croydon, Surrey) = KATHLEEN IRENE CLEMENTSON (b.3 Apr 1949 Barking, Essex). All this family now living in Sussex.
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The descendants of Thomas (1791-1851) are all.........
It appears that a large group of the Gilbert family moved from Sussex to Illinois around 1851 (initially to New York, then to Verona, Grundy County, about 60 miles southwest of Chicago). By around 1915 the majority of the family were living in Luverne, Rock County, Minnesota, and they were farming there for two generations. Subsequently descendants lived in Hastings, Nebraska (1947), Berea, Ohio (1951), Aberdeen WA (1980) and Marshfield, Wisconsin (1981). Now they live in Eugene, Oregon. The original immigrants would seem to be as follows;
THOMAS GILBERT (b.23 Nov 1791 Heathfield, Sussex - d.8 Aug 1851 Illinois, buried Verona) = MERCY ERREY (b.17 Jul 1802 Heathfield, Sussex - d.15 Apr 1851 en route to USA, buried at sea off Newfoundland)
and their children (all born in Heathfield, Sussex);
* For details of the FELLINGHAM family, contact; Kevin Rucker, Shelley Murphy, or Jim Pool
Descendants of GEORGE L. GILBERT (31 Jan 1832 Heathfield, Sussex - 7 Sep 1908 Illinois) and SARA CARRICK
Descendants of WILLIAM GILBERT (17 Mar 1840 Heathfield, Sussex, England - 1 Mar 1928 Los Angeles) and ANNA RUMNEY (8 Feb 1845 Kent UK - 2 Jul 1921 Luverne MN)
Descendants of ROBERT RUMNEY GILBERT (b.14 Apr 1874 Verona IL - d.31 Aug 1959 Rock Rapids, Iowa, buried Luverne MN) and AUGUSTA NORELIUS (b.14 Mar 1881 Luverne MN - d.10 Jun 1977 Luverne MN)
Descendants of WILLIAM FREDERICK GILBERT (b.26 Mar 1922 Luverne) and HELEN JOAN TOBIN (b.7 Jun 1921, Eveleth)
Descendants of ROBERT WILLIAM GILBERT (b.24 Jan 1951 Ohio) and JANE THERESA POTTS (b.8 Feb1952, Tacoma WA)
From Elizabeth Gorringe (1784-18??) of West Firle and Glynde, Sussex
Thru Joseph Gorringe (1823-1904) local councillor of Lewes and Eastbourne, Sussex.
To Frank James Gorringe (185?-19??) of Lewes and Eastbourne, Sussex
From Thomas Grace (169?-1727) of Wartling (near Pevensey), Sussex
Thru Thomas Grace (1766-1818) of Eastbourne, Sussex
To John Grace (1800-1865) of Brighton and Eastbourne, Sussex
and their associations with the Ades, Brook, Greenleas and Verrall families
From Mary 'Minnie' Green (1851-1930) of Uckfield and Brighton, Sussex
To H.John 'Jack' Green (187?-19??) cake-mixture manufacturer of Brighton, Sussex
and their associations with the Bannister, Stenning and Sturt families
From Stephen Hassell (1757-17??) of Waldron, Sussex
Thru Stephen Hassell (1784-1857) of Waldron, Sussex
To Reginald Edward Hassell (1872-1953) of Waldron, Sussex
and their associations with the Adams, Bray, Chandler, de Mattos, Dowley, Fuller, Gilbert, Gorringe, Monckton, and Sharvell families.
From William Hedgecott (18??-19??) coachman of Kensington, London
To Mabel Alice Hedgecott (1883-1973) of London, Weymouth and Eastbourne, Sussex
and their associations with the Gilbert, Hewitt and Kyte families
From Arthur Hewitt (18??-19??) of Herefordshire
To Elsie Mabel Hewitt (1906-1990) of Bournemouth, Weymouth, and Eastbourne
and their associations with the Gilbert, Hedgecott, Kyte and Steadman families
From Cleve Hooper (1791-1836) of Sussex
and John Hooper (181?-18??) school headmaster of Hastings, Sussex
To Langdon Hooper (186?-19??) who moved to Portland, Oregon, USA around 1880.
and their associations with the Brook, Fairlight, Grace, Greenleas, Morris and Verrall families
From Rev.Daniel Mann (17??-1788) of Burwash, Sussex
Thru Daniel Mann (1828-18??) of Battle, Sussex
To Edwin Mann (1851-1???) of Heathfield, Sussex
and their associations with the Boys and Morris families
A huge amount of data, including the Lewes Martyrs,
Thru Arthur Morris (16??-1675) of Lewes, Sussex
and Joseph Morris (1717-1795) of Lewes, Sussex
and Joseph Morris (1752-1826) of Lewes, Sussex
and James Berry Morris (1828-1901) of Lewes, Eastbourne and Uckfield, Sussex
and Herbert Morris (1856-1927) who went to New Zealand 1895 to 1903
and Frank Morris (1869-19??) who emigrated to Canada in 1913
and Reginald Nelson Morris (1890-1982) of Lewes, Sussex
to Clive Hunter Morris (1939-????) airline pilot of Eastbourne, Sussex
and their associations with the Berry, Boys, Grace, Hooper, Leney, Mann, Penfold, Pursglove, Shoosmith, Stone, Sturt, Verrall, Vinall, Wille and Wimble families.
From James Plummer (18??-1901) of Peckham, London
Thru Henrietta Plummer (born about 1900) who moved to New Zealand as a domestic help
To Barbara Plummer (1940-????) who met Barney Beckess on a ship and married him in 1960, Barking, Essex
and their associations with the Adams, Beckess, Cannon, Clementson, Cook, Davies, Foyster, Gilbert, Howe, Ingle, Jones, Pack, Ray, Rogers, Tite, Wall and Waller families
From John Soddy (1755-1785) Cheesemonger of Middlesex
Thru Benjamin Soddy (1822-1911) of Bethnal Green, London, and Eastbourne, Sussex
and Frederick Soddy (1877-1956) nuclear scientist and Nobel laureate, of Eastbourne, Sussex
To Elizabeth Jane Soddy (1941-????) of Toronto, Canada since the 1960's
and their associations with the Adams, Ansell, Gilbert, Graham, Green, Stilwell and Thursfield families
WE FOUND SOME GENUINE CONNECTIONS !! ANY MORE OUT THERE ?
From James Sturt (17??-1820) of Lewes, Sussex
Thru William Sturt (1833-18??) of Chailey, Sussex
To Edward Sturt (1859-1???) of Brighton, Sussex
and their associations with the Bannister, Green and Stenning families
From William Verrall (1697-1781) of Sussex, England
Thru Richard Verrall (1812-1855?) auctioneer of Lewes, Sussex
To William Verrall (1851-18??) of Eastbourne, Sussex
Also visit this site for more Verrall information.
From Thomas Vinall (16??-16??) of Falmer, near Brighton, Sussex
Thru Rev.John Vinall (1782-1860) Pastor of Henfield, Eastbourne, Chichester & others, all Sussex
and Ebenezer Vinall (1817-18??) independent minister of Lewes, Sussex
and Isaac Vinall (1844-1907) solicitor of Lewes, Sussex
to Stephen John Vinall (1970-????)
and their associations with the Morris and Piper families
From Harry Wall (186?-19??) of Barking, Essex
Thru James Wall (189?-19??) engine driver of Willesden, London
To Royce Leslie Wall (1926-????) of Finsbury Park, London
and their associations with the Adams, Beckess, Cannon, Clementson, Cook, Davies, Foyster, Gilbert, Howe, Ingle, Jones, Pack, Plummer, Ray, Rogers, Tite and Waller families
From George Wille (1738-1817) of Lewes, Sussex
Thru Charles Wille (1797-1878) of Lewes, Sussex
and George Wille (1827-1899) of Lewes, Sussex (who went to Omaha, Nebraska from 1866 to 1875)
To Francis Ann Wille (1823-1915) of Uckfield and Crowborough, Sussex
and their associations with the Berry, Marchant, Morris, Verrall, & Wimble families
From John Wimble (1729-17??) of Lewes, Sussex
Thru Nehemiah Wimble (1778-1843) of Lewes, Sussex
To John Wimble (1787-1834) of Brighton, Sussex
and their associations with the Hammond, Horner, Marchant, Wardell & Wille families
WE FOUND SOME !! ANY MORE OUT THERE ??
PLEASE HELP ME TRACE THESE PEOPLE:
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THE CAIRO WAR MEMORIAL CEMETERY
My uncle David Gilbert (1888-1915) died of para-typhoid in the First World War during the unsuccessful Dardanelles campaign, and was buried in Cairo, Egypt in 1915. His grave is in the Cairo War Memorial Cemetery, which is very hard to find.
The Commonwealth War Graves Commission always seems to describe it as "3 miles south of the centre of the city, on the north side of Old Cairo". This is nowhere near enough detail should someone wanted to visit a grave there. In November 2004 I was in Cairo and resolved to find it. It wasn't easy. This is my advice for anyone trying to locate it.
Note that the Cairo War Memorial Cemetery is NOT the same as the Commonwealth War Cemetery on the airport road out towards Heliopolis. The Cairo War Memorial Cemetery has two sections, the main one being for over 2000 British servicemen lost in both World Wars (in the care of the War Graves Commission), and a smaller area for British civilians.
Firstly you need to get to the Mari Gergis district of Old Cairo. This is in the Coptic Christian district of the city, and gets its name from the church of Saint Mari Gergis (which I think means "Mary George"). This church is also known as "the Hanging Church" as it is built on a Roman foundation and is suspended on its four corners, so that the whole thing appears to hang in space - worth a visit in its own right !
Get a cab (you should agree the price for the job before you set off !) and head out to this district. Ask him for "MARI GERGIS" and he'll know what you mean. When you arrive in the area (which is full of cemeteries!), this is where you need the cooperation of your cab driver, although it's not totally necessary for him to speak English. You need to be south of the "Salah Salem" road, and ask for "Shara Abu Safin". The cemetery is at No.17 Shara Abu Safin, which runs north-south, parallel with the railway.
You may be lucky and find it first time, but most likely your driver will ask someone; and most likely they won't know the answer, but don't worry - you're close. If you're lucky, he'll keep asking folk until he gets it right. If you spot an Armenian Cemetery you're getting very close, as you want the street that runs parallel to the one you're on, but behind the Armenian Cemetery. If you spot the American Cemetery, then you're getting very close indeed, as it's in the same street ! In fact it's worth getting the driver to ask for the American Cemetery as it seems to be better known than the one you want.
Keep going down the road past the American Cemetery and you should soon see the Cairo War Memorial Cemetery on the same side of the road. There are two large metal gates and you can see the cemetery through them - but they will probably be locked and you won't be able to get in. So the last piece of the jigsaw is to walk down the road to your left (if you're facing the gates) until you get to a wooden gate. Ring the bell insistently and the caretaker will eventually come to greet you. He's a really nice chap, but doesn't speak a word of English as far as I could tell. He'll let you into the cemetery, help you find the grave you are seeking, and then give you some peace. I tipped him 20 Egyptian Pounds as I left, and he seemed happy with that.
Finally, if you do succeed in finding the place, perhaps you could collect a bit more information about its exact location and let me know. I'll post the details on this webpage, which I hope will show up pretty well if anybody Googles the Cairo War Memorial Cemetery. Good luck !